Pontius Pilate, the Roman governor who sent Jesus to be crucified, is often seen as the villain of the piece.

But look at the story more closely, and it throws up a lot of questions: Pilate knew that Jesus was innocent, and he seemed quite reluctant to send him to the cross. So why did he do it? Was he a weak man, rather than a downright evil one? And what can people who hold any kind of power over others today learn from his example?

In this Good Friday and Easter edition of Things Unseen, the Ven Liz Adekunle is joined by the Rev George Pitcher, writer and Anglican priest; Christian author and musician Chibundu Onuzo; and former homicide detective turned evangelist Paul Gask .

Together they explore these questions and ask if we can see our own lives reflected in Pilate’s actions.